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November 6, 2009

Hinenuitepo tagged me in their newly-formed DPS Meme based off of the most current Circle of Healers Meme to give some self reflection about yourself as a DPS. I was going to do it from a Mage perspective, but I do not think I can honestly do it yet. Seriously, he’s 63!

Do not worry though, I will force request my co-patriot and partner in crime, Aifel to go all Roguie on that Meme! So stay tuned for more Memes by the end of this week.

Gravity over at Pwnwear, however decided to let me in on some of the kickassery athat is the ‘How do I Tank’ meme. Death Knight Tanking is what I do. Hell I tried to DPS for a bit and just got too bored with it. Actually that pretty much sums up why I never touched Death Knights again until around 3.1, I just can not stand to play melee DPS. So, without further adieu, I present you my little piece of meme!

 

What is the name, class, and spec of your primary Tank?

Elnoriah the Death Knight Tank of Frost-like hell. Seriously, it is my favorite part of hell!

To let you all in on a little secret, Elnoriah was the name of this imaginary superhero friend I had when I was little. He kicked major ass and served justice to all of my enemies in my younger days, so it just seemed fitting for me to create a Death Knight under that name.  (Yes, I had a screwy childhood)

What is your usual tanking environment?

10 man Raids and some Heroics, I have Tanked VERY few 25m Raids. Although mostly this is because my computer would lag far to much for me to be a reliable Tank in a 25m, I still would prefer the tightly-knitness of the 10m Raids.

What is your favorite encounter to tank, and why?

I really love Tanking Twin Val’kyr! The whole encounter is a blast, but Tanking them just feels surreal to me. The mechanics have everyone enjoying the fight because there is always some sort of thing to collect, some damage going out, some aura to change, you have to be quick and focused!

What is your least favorite encounter to tank, and why?

Kael’Thuzad, he’s annoying to begin with but it is just a bland fight to Tank in my opinion. Although the first phase is hilarious to Death Grip the Abombs!

What do you think is the biggest strength of your class, and why?

The biggest strength of the class are our cool downs, we have quite a few of them and they are always up when we need them the most. Kora’s slamming you down with some lava fists? Pop that Icebound Fortitude and tell him to hit a little harder next time! Then you get to use it in 2min and laugh at him even more because he still has failed to kill you!

and weakness?

We have a weakness? You disarm us, we keep on hitting you with spells. Or try and silence us! We still hit you with our abilities. Even when we are dead we leave a preasent in the form of diseases for you to remember us by <3.

Nice try, but we still win!

What is your favorite thing about the class you chose for your primary Tank and why?

The creativity as a Tank, I have 3 specs to choose from that all are completely viable to use, and to top it off I can still be very flexible with where I put talents into my spec at that point.

In a 25 man raiding environment, what do you feel is the best tanking assignment for you?

Give me something that is interesting? Adds, the boss? Who cares, just give me the job that you do not want to do and I can Tank that like a pro.

What tanking class do you enjoy tanking with the most?

Bear, I have been thoroughly enjoying Tanking with a Bear buddy of mine. They are just so interesting and amusing to me. Besides, when whelps go amass I have his back, and when something big comes to chomp on me he can fight me to rip it off.

What? You didn’t think I would let him take it, it’s MINE DAMMIT!

and the least?

Other DK’s, you guys are either full of yourselves or down right idiots. There is room for only 1 idiot in this Raid, and it is certainly not going to be you.

What is your worst habit as a tank?

Some times I forget to switch Frost Pres on when switching specs or after being Mind Controlled. Seriously, do not toy with my Presence you damn Priests in H ToC 5m.

What is your biggest pet peeve in a group environment while tanking?

Idiots that either pull the boss before me, or unleash every nuke they have in their arsenal while I am positioning the boss. Let me do my job and I guarentee yours will be cake!

Do you feel that your class/spec is well balanced with other tanks for PvE tanking?

I can not complain to be honest, we are in a good spot right now. Sure we have some downsides, but doesn’t every Tanking class?

What tools do you use to evaluate your own performance as a tank?

Omen and Recount, I want to see what spells are hitting the hardest and I want to be able to pull enough TPS that no DPS will even think of pulling off of me.

What do you think is the biggest misconception people have about your tanking class?

That we can not Tank. Jesus christ, I figured you people had gone away, we CAN Tank, just because we do not have a shield or a Bear form does not make us not viable to be Tanks. Should I be telling you that Spriests can’t DPS because they are “meant” to be Healers?

What do you think is the toughest thing for new players of your class to learn about tanking?

What stats/caps should be your top priority. Honestly, when I used to heal I saw too many people just stacking STAM and not even thinking about the DCap. But what happens after you hit 540 and can successfully balance it?

No, if you keep stacking Drating because “it gives a bit to avoidance” you are doing it wrong. You need to know your caps and be able to balance them, not drown in them.

If someone were to evaluate your tanking ability via tools like fraps, recount, and World of Logs, what tendencies would they notice?

They would notice that I totally jump around too much like a pansy-elf. Generally I can’t think of any bad habits I have that would be noticeable and somewhat threatening.

Do you strive primarily for balance between your tanking stats, or do you stack some much higher than others, and why?

Balance is key, I generally pray to the STAM gods, but everything is taken into account when changing a peice of gear or regemming/enchanting.

What Tanking class do you feel you understand least?

As silly as it sounds probably the Warriors. Bears are a close second, but I’ve never played a Prot Warrior and honestly have no intentions of doing so.

Addons for tanking?

Skinner (to give me a wide-screened view to see a bit more around me), Omen, Prat (organize chat), Dominos, Mik’s Scrolling Battle Text, Grid, Pitbull, and a few others that I will probably remember later.

 

Here’s the FUN part, who else gets tagged by me? Well, how about any one that reads this and has not gone through this ordeal, because I think every Tanking Blogger that I read regularly seems to have done this already. Go for it, you will learn a lot about yourself through this.

What is the name, class, and spec of your primary Tank?

Generally I have two answers here. Fistly when Gravity was very actively raiding Ulduar 10/25 and secondly for my future, when my re-roll DK Industry is geared.

My first Death Knight, named Gravity, is on a Euro server and doesn’t get as much love as he deserves because I’m moving back to Australia, in transition now. Gravity was my main since WotLK, and I prepared for it many months in advance. I recently started levelling a new DK to tank with on an Oceanic server, he’s called Industry (hoping the guy on my server with the name Gravity will accept my 200g offer to delete his character).

I have a long-term view and will be playing WoW through Cataclysm and beyond, so wanted a local timezone server to tank on. I wish you could transfer EU -> USA servers. :(

In Ulduar 25, I was spec’d blood tank with a DPS 2nd spec that varied (dual-wield frost most recently). Currently frost tank.

Hoping I’ll get to raid properly again, even if it’s lower tier content, on Industry from mid to late December.

What is your usual tanking environment?

I prefer 10-mans. More camaraderie, less logistics. I did enjoy the 40-man raids too, though I healed or dps’d then.

What is your favorite encounter to tank, and why?

I really liked Mimiron because of the focus required, with its variety of tank jobs in each phase and how even after doing it a few times, I’d still need to be on the ball. I used to stuff up on the bomb bots though; attacking them rather than using chains of ice.

What is your least favorite encounter to tank, and why?

I like tank/spank bosses like XT, some would put him as least favourite. Tough question. Probably least favourite would be Auriaya because fear is just an annoying mechanic. (Least fav instance? Sunken Temple. I hate that place).

What do you think is the biggest strength of your class, and why?

Versatility. Snap AOE agro in Frost, sustained AOE in Unholy and self-healing in Blood. I can respec a DK tank into any role required within a tank corps.

and weakness?

Being silenced can be devastating.

What is your favorite thing about the class you chose for your primary Tank and why?

The runic resource system. I hated mana, which is why I swapped from my old maintankadin to a DK tank. I enjoy the versatility and the lovely flow of actions you can get into. I like how active it is to tank. Pallys are more rhythmic to tank 969, whilst DKs are more stabby.

In a 25 man raiding environment, what do you feel is the best tanking assignment for you?

A DK is the swiss army knife of tanking, so really the player should pick the niche that’s missing in the tank corps and spec into it.

For example, if you’ve a pally tank buddy who’s still happy to mop up the AOE, a DK can go blood tank for single-target pwnage. If the pally is sick of being pigeon-holed into AOE, DKs can spec into Frost instead to smash up the aoe mobs.

So the best assignment therefore is the one you’ve spec’d into. We’re flexible (just don’t like silence much and warriors are much more mobile with intercept and charge), so we can fit in with the corps.

What tanking class do you enjoy tanking with the most?

I loved in my old UK guild when Aleona (pally), Keryth (warrior) and I were the tanks. Covered all possibilities, and shield tanks just look damn cool. I wish I could wield a shield for looks.

Maybe I’ve a soft-spot because they’re friends too. Our superb druid tank Bix only recently went back to bear after being resto to help out with a healer shortage, so didn’t really get to tank much with him.

and the least?

A bad DK tank. I hate bad DK tanks who refuse to improve and don’t have a clue what they’re doing. Seriously, they ruin the reputation of the class.

What is your worst habit as a tank?

Probably tweaking my UI too much. I sometimes break things (like not being able to see my fellow tank’s debuffs) or my FPS goes to crap because of some bloody unidentified addon I just installed. It got so bad I was de-installing and testing them to isolate what was stuffing me on Razorscale, never worked it out really.

What is your biggest pet peeve in a group environment while tanking?

People not learning the fight either before we go in, or worse… not learning during. Doing the same mistake. Not understanding instructions yet not admitting to it. Failing to play well, and also failing to communicate about it, really shits me.

Do you feel that your class/spec is well balanced with other tanks for PvE tanking?

I’d like more threat against a non-melee boss, where currently we are the weakest. We don’t have an attack-power debuff but I don’t think we need one to be considered a balanced. I don’t read many legitimate complaints about our balance other than threat.

I think Blizzard have an extraordinarily hard job to balance the three tanking trees within the DK and then between DKs and other classes. I would not be surprised if Cataclysm gives up on Unholy as a tanking tree and gives it a pvp and utility bias (buffs/ debuffs) in the same way Frost mages are (currently, but that’s changing) more PvP oriented. That could simplify their balancing act.

What tools do you use to evaluate your own performance as a tank?

Lots. I like Skada or Recount, the former being less CPU intensive and has a better UI but it’s death log analysis isn’t great like Recount. Worldoflogs (or WWS earlier). TPS parser. Sometimes I fraps myself to watch replays on new fights. Omen.

As raid leader, I also use Debuff Enough, RaidBuffStatus, Ensidia Fails.

What do you think is the biggest misconception people have about your tanking class?

That we’re squishy. Maybe DKs used to be, when the class was highly geared to cooldowns and you were squishier in between them, but now we’re fairly balanced in terms of mitigation and flat damage reduction.

A bad DK, however, can still feel squishy. If they don’t use their cooldowns (even on 5-man trash), particularly common for new tanks is to not use AMS enough and to forget their interrupt (to stop damage hitting you); badly played this way, a DK can take more damage than they should.

What do you think is the toughest thing for new players of your class to learn about tanking?

Often, it’s how to tank in the first place. Many, many DKs have never been tanks and found it a pretty easy way to level one up. So you get young padawan tanks learning the craft of tanking.

Getting past that, assuming the questions of ‘defence 540′ and so on are handled.

Next is learning to play without constantly looking at the action bars and rune bars. You need to look around you, at the boss, at the adds, and not the complicated series of buttons you need to press and deciding whether to use runic power or not.

That’s the hardest thing. Making the mechanics of being a DK second-nature, so you can then focus on being a tank and broaden your view to the whole game field and your own health bar.

If someone were to evaluate your tanking ability via tools like fraps, recount, and World of Logs, what tendencies would they notice?

A weakness of mine is moving constantly and handling the finger-mangling combination of DK attack buttons. Veneretio posted on this topic once. It can be hard to strafe or move around whilst banging out the threat, and my TPS dips on that kind of fight (eg. Hodir).

Avoidance, Mitigation or Stamina and why?

Stamina. It’s the best in the current and 3.3 game mechanics. Gear gives you enough of the other two. Disretionary spend is on stam. Philosophically I’d prefer to say avoidance, just it doesn’t work out well.

Do you strive primarily for balance between your tanking stats, or do you stack some much higher than others, and why?

Balance, but I bias stamina.

What Tanking class do you feel you understand least?

Bears. My druid only ever healed really.

Addons for tanking?

Listed a few earlier. Others include: Shadowed unit frames, TankPoints, Tank Totals, I might re-install Elkano Buffbar and Mik Scrolling Text (had disabled them while looking for my FPS-destroying addon), Dominos, OmniCC, Fortress, Quartz (for a GCD spark), Rating Buster, Outfitter.

I have macros for rune strike on everything, and I have used Dominos to bind actions to shift-key combinations and other letters around my ESDF movement keys. Like shift-1 is blood tap (one rune reset), shift-2 is ERW (all rune reset), z is DnD, b is strangulate (interrupt), x is mind freeze (interrupt), h is howling blast (aoe).

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  1. November 6, 2009 9:25 AM

    1. Skinner sounds useful, 2. I had a shit childhood too, 3. stop jumping around like a pansy.

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